Your Rig....

Lord_PorkSword · Connoisseur of Bourbon!

RE: Your Rig....

Bl!tz · ...ǝp¡s ɹǝɥʇo ǝɥʇ uo

just some words to share my experimentations about chipsets:

with exactly same hardware,settings & drivers on two differents mobos(with two Nvidia GFXs)

22 800 3dmark 06 pts with ATI 770 chipset & a "cheat"(bios tweaking)
22 200 3dmark 06 pts with a...Nvidia 980s/SLI chipset
wasnt able to run the bench with the lucid hydra chipset

UT3: same performances on ATI & Nvidia chipsets ,20% less for the hybrid one

ccl: if it still a pure pain to run a pair or triplette of ATI Gfx's on a Nvidia chipset (only possible with some rare models and from some rare manufacters no asus or msi^^) it s really easy & efficient to use a cheat to run Nvidia gfx's on a ATI chipset...lucid hydra is less efficient (quite not noticeable in applications tbh if ur rig is decent) but as it allow to run the ATI chipset, the Nvidia cheat...& the lucid hydra it s a good deal^^

boyah!

Lord_PorkSword · Connoisseur of Bourbon!

I got my SSD up n running finally! It's a Corsair Performance 3 128gig. Running of a SATA II interface as I don't have SATA III on my mobo! :(
Win7 Ultimate 64bit boots from post in 10 seconds and logs in, for use, within 2 seconds which is superb. IE9 loads within 2 seconds which is very nice!
I've moved all windows, and Internet Explorer temp directories onto my 'normal' drives to minimise wear n tear on the drive n ensure performance keeps up longer than usual.
Very very happy with the performance of the SSD so far!

I'm glad I got a 128gig drive as my UT3 "my docco" directory itself is over 10gig and I've used up 50% of the drive space now....doh!

Bl!tz · ...ǝp¡s ɹǝɥʇo ǝɥʇ uo

nice improvement Mick, i plane to buy one of thoses soon too but like u mention it, i wonder if 120gb are enough with our tremendous ut3....i remember i found my velociraptor 150 gb a bit "short" +.+
glad to hear that it improove highly all response times, good job

Achernar · Amateur UT mapper

Those SSD are a must have item. A 10s boot is almost unheard of, I'm so envious.

Sounds like your trip to Cancun and Disney was like being in heaven, and when you came back the Gods granted you lighting boot times, Ay caramba!

Lord_PorkSword · Connoisseur of Bourbon!

I'd be interested in seeing what difference going to a SATA III interface would make with the drive. Can't be stuffed though...currently works a treat for my needs!

I'd love to host my steam directory on the drive but seeing my steam dir currently sits at 334gig in size...this wasn't going to happen.... ashamed

-- Edited by Lord_PorkSword on Wednesday 21st of September 2011 06:27:13 AM

Bl!tz · ...ǝp¡s ɹǝɥʇo ǝɥʇ uo

just and finally installed a ssd (120gb), and wow...not a lot to add to what Mick said, fast like a blit...hm...like the wind @ least
now i m saving each gb, installing all what possible on secondary drives...ut3 eat too much to my tastes though

Lord_PorkSword · Connoisseur of Bourbon!

Excellent to hear M8!

The Sanforce based drives are reputed to be the best ones to get but alas I'm very happy with my marvell based one so far. I picked my model as it 'apparently' keeps performance going longer than the sanforce based drives.

Damn UT3 and it's custom maps location.... :/

Just remember to tell the system to move your OS and IE temp directories onto ya old HDD's. This should help keep the performance up on the SSD for longer!

Bl!tz · ...ǝp¡s ɹǝɥʇo ǝɥʇ uo

good idea for the temp files, what the easiest way to do it m8? (especially for the os i have no idea^^)
thx in advance
not sure if sata III or II change a lot, my loading times look similar to urs, clear that the real jump is to come from a spinning hd to a ssd :p

mAlkAv!An · calculating Pi by hand

*Klick*

:)

-- Edited by mAlkAv!An on Wednesday 28th of September 2011 02:51:15 PM

Bl!tz · ...ǝp¡s ɹǝɥʇo ǝɥʇ uo

héhéhé....thx m8

mAlkAv!An · calculating Pi by hand

I got my SSD last week... A-Data S511 120GB. Another SF-2281 one.

Here are some benchies, AS SSD and Atto:

Bl!tz · ...ǝp¡s ɹǝɥʇo ǝɥʇ uo

nice reading speed m8

Lord_PorkSword · Connoisseur of Bourbon!

xmas pressie for me from tha wife: H2O-620

Bl!tz · ...ǝp¡s ɹǝɥʇo ǝɥʇ uo

héhé...cool cooling

Lord_PorkSword · Connoisseur of Bourbon!

Got the H2O 620 installed earlier. Overclocked the i7 920 to 3.6Ghz (2.66 is stock). Temps are good at this speed! I had the clock at 3.8 but was concerned with temps. I'm guessing the high temps are partly due to me buggering a bit of the thermal paste that was on the bottom of the CPU plate.

I'll get some decent paste over the next week or two.

As for results with the CPU @ 3.6Ghz:

Bl!tz · ...ǝp¡s ɹǝɥʇo ǝɥʇ uo

nice my friend ,with such an oc it s a new cpu ! does the improvement "jump to eyes" in current applications n programs?
about thermal paste, noctua NTH1 and artic cooling MX 2 & MX 4 are top notch....MX 3 i found hard to clean and coolermaster high quality was the worst...and the more expensive.....ac MX 2 & 4 are imo the best ratio price/efficience

Lord_PorkSword · Connoisseur of Bourbon!

Thanx for the advice!

VaLkyR_Anubis · Unreal Old Friend

Alright, I'm new to this forums, that's why I want to share several things with you, e.g. my pride!

Case: Thermaltake Armor VA8000S Series

Monitor: LG L226W

Keyboard: Logitech G15

Mouse: Sharkoon Fireglider & huge Sharkoon mouse pad

Tablet: Wacom Bamboo

Speakers: Creative Inspire T7900

Motherboard: ASUS Striker II Formula

CPU: Intel Quad Core 9550 @ 2.83Ghz & ASUS Silent Knight II

RAM: 8GB G.Skill DDR2 1066Mhz (PC8500)

HDD: 1TB Samsung SATA II

GPU: Gainward GTX 550 Ti Golden Sample

Soundcard: Creative X-Fi xtreme Gamer Fatal1ty Professional Series

PSU: Thermaltake 750W Toughpower

Drives: DVD & DVD Burner

Cooling: air - 1x250mm & 3x120mm & 1x80mm

Misc: Aerocool control panel for fan speed

OS: Windows Vista Home Premium 64Bit

As you can see, my system doesn't has the best and latest technology, but it is perfect for all games I like to play, e.g. Unreal Universe, Gears Of War, StarCraft 2, etc. I don't give a damn about upgrading at the moment, because in my case, it doesn't make any sense, even when I have the money for a upgrade, but I keep saving money and wait for the future and right moment.

-- Edited by VaLkyR_Anubis on Tuesday 27th of December 2011 11:30:30 AM

-- Edited by VaLkyR_Anubis on Tuesday 27th of December 2011 11:31:56 AM

Bl!tz · ...ǝp¡s ɹǝɥʇo ǝɥʇ uo

lol...i like ur desk...familiar "mad labo" athmosphere....

and for the upgrades...as far as ur happy with ur pc and if it fits to ur requirements why would you change?

i m not a fan of white cases but this one look damn good!

VaLkyR_Anubis · Unreal Old Friend

Thank you very much for these nice words!

I agree about the upgrade thing. You know, I play Gears Of War with 60fps constantly, in UT3 it depends on how the map is built, but by using 'stat fps', I'm mostly in the green level. In StarCraft 2, well there you can't talk about performance, because this game uses match marketing, which kinda sucks. Regarding this, one of my soul mates gotta GTX 580 and we made a little comparison some time ago. Even by the fact, he got a '3 times' faster GPU, we still had the same performance. It makes fun (StarCraft 2), but the system is not that, what we want and expect nowadays. All my other games run more than good or perfect, except S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Call Of Pripyat, but by setting the right details, the game still looks awesome and runs good.

Nevertheless, one thing is sure, I play all my games without any AA or AF, only max detail and v-sync, nothing else. I activate AA and AF for special screenshots only.

My case is not that white, it is more silver with green lighting inside, which I love. You know, I'm a fan of Nvidia for years, that means there gotta be something green in my case, hehe! :D

Bl!tz · ...ǝp¡s ɹǝɥʇo ǝɥʇ uo

haha....funny that u mention ur nvidia addiction, i m...hm...was myself a pure nvidia addict and i just decided to give ati a try with a 6950...i noticed that nvidia products are always more expensive but never payed attention to this fact due to my nvidia luv
recently i had lot of SLI problems and nvidia support totally ignored me....so probably a sort of revenge
+ i must say that i ve recently build two pcs for friends with 100 euros ati gfx inside (5770 & 6770) and the result wasnt that far of my very expensive nvidia 285GTX SLI...
...so ok i luv nvidia but i think ati deserve/worth a try for their cheap prices politic....i hope i ll not receive a big slap and be disapointed

regarding the games u play u re totally right about ur pc choice....if u suddently fall in luv with crysis i bet u ll have to go another way

VaLkyR_Anubis · Unreal Old Friend

Of course, Nvidia or AMD, each of them got their advantages and disadvantages, but for a long time I've been using Nvidia GPUs only. Even when my first PC had a ATI Radeon 9800Pro inside, which was a good card, nowadays I prefer Nvidia GPUs. The reason is simple: Nvidia got Physx and CUDA, which are marvellous features. If you play e.g. Mirror's Edge without a Nvidia GPU and Physx, certain special effect aren't visible and included. Sure, some people might say those special effects aren't that unique, but hey just a matter of taste aye. My main reason is just, that I got more experience with Nvidia than AMD.

I paid 130 euros for my GTX 550 Ti and I still got my older GTX 260. The 550 Ti is a bit faster than my older one, sometimes much faster. But the 550 Ti is smaller, lower power consumption and faster and runs all my games perfectly. If you buy a new GPU, you don't have to buy the best one, depending on what you wanna play, but current GPUs by Nvidia like a GTX 560 or GTX 560 Ti aren't that expensive, more cheap, but got enough power to kick ass.

By the way, two GTX 550 Ti's are very fast, almost fast like a single GTX 570, but their price is a little bit lower, isn't it. I know, it is not that easy to make the right deicison, if you wanna buy a new GPU, nowadays, but mid-range GPUs aren't that expensive and have enough power, even for power-hungry games, by both companies.

Yeah, a GTX 285 was very expensive back on the old days! To be honest, when I bought my GTX 260, I paid 250 euros for it and some months ago, when I bought the GTX 550 Ti, I just laughed about the price and performance, compared to m GTX 260, because it is just ridiculous. However, that's the way how things go!

Muhaha, you know what! I played a lot of the Crysis games, except Crysis 2, which I don't play and own. With my system, I get 35-45fps at DX9 and high details and to me this is a good performance. Not the best quality, but the game looks good!

Take a look at this, if you wanna know more. >>>http://de.xfire.com/profile/anubis2nature/

Lord_PorkSword · Connoisseur of Bourbon!

Followed ya advice Bl!tz and got some Noctua NT-H1 thermal paste today! I'll chuck it on on the weekend! For $8 it was a bargin!

Bl!tz · ...ǝp¡s ɹǝɥʇo ǝɥʇ uo

Lord_PorkSword wrote:
Followed ya advice Bl!tz and got some Noctua NT-H1 thermal paste today! I'll chuck it on on the weekend! For $8 it was a bargin!

héhé...good choice bro, when i ll have finish my artic cooling last "can" i ll go back on noctua, best balance price/efficience/"easy to apply"/longevity imo

barballs · Unreal Old Friend

Hehe I believe that last time I was on this forum was over a year and a bit ago. I was having trouble with my rig.

That new home built PC gave me no end of trouble.

A year later I finally got it figured out: The 24 pin was not in the right way. I had the 20 in first and the 4 was not connecting right.

That combined with a faulty 4 gig dim was the source of my woes.

I ended up finally with a GigaByte Z68x-UD4-B3 mobo
i5 2500K 3.6Ghz
16 Gb Kingston HyperX ram
120 Gb Solid state HD
1TB Caviar Black
570 GTX Superclocked.

Dubbed "Frankenstein 2" or Frank the 2nd for short :) So far so good, knock on wood.

Any how just thought I'd pop in and say Hai! :P

Bl!tz · ...ǝp¡s ɹǝɥʇo ǝɥʇ uo

nice rig mate , and happy to hear that u found the guilty part

Lord_PorkSword · Connoisseur of Bourbon!

I've recently built 2 rigs recently with that same mobo. Works very nicely!

Bl!tz · ...ǝp¡s ɹǝɥʇo ǝɥʇ uo

for thoses who are looking for nice rheobus(fan controllers) i ve recently installed two scythe kaze master controllers(pro & ace models)
they are really nice and allow u to stop totally the fan rotations, the build quality is very good and the install is easy
when i compare em to my old akasa fan controller or even to NZXT tactile ones i can say that there s nice improvements, even the sensors are more accurate...+ they both look very good

pro is for 6 fans and 6 sensors:

ace is for 4 fans and 4 sensors:

the ace model is more eyecandy, both costs around 40 euros...
...just to tell

mAlkAv!An · calculating Pi by hand

Well, 80mm are smaller that's why they need to rotate way faster as a 120mm fan to transport the same air volume, no matter of the design.

I wonder why you run your CPU fan at a fixed speed anyway? Nearly every mainboard has a smart cpu fan control to adjust fan speeds automatically on the fly depending on the current cpu temp. Some work better or more smoothly than others but the option is there.

-- Edited by mAlkAv!An on Sunday 22nd of January 2012 03:36:02 PM

VaLkyR_Anubis · Unreal Old Friend

@ barballs, very solid rig mate! And I guess you gotta lot of fun with this rig, aye? I believe, there won't be any trouble with performance in the next years, because your hardware is badass! :D

@ Bl!tz, reminds me a lot of my one fan controller by Aerocool and indeed, such fan controllers are really good! However, nowadays, you can get all info about temperatures of your rig by using certain little tools, e.g. GPUZ and others. That's why, I don't know if such fan controllers make that much sense or not. Once you gotta nice air flow in your case, you can imagine that nothing gets too hot! However, I'm still using one and I like it! Even when I could plug all my fans in my motherboard and set speed there, but hell who's counting?! :)

Bl!tz · ...ǝp¡s ɹǝɥʇo ǝɥʇ uo

lol...when u have lot of fans it still the easiest way to tweak the noise level , they are installed on PCs with 9 and 7 fans(witout GFX & PSU ones...lol^^)...too much to regulate em via softs & mobo...
about temperatures u re right SpeedFan,CoreTemp and even Asus AiSuiteII and MSI control center are more accurate...and afterburner is top notch for GFX fans settings & temperatures monitoring :p

héhé...it s sometimes cool to cut some fans to spare some watts and db when u re doing simple tasks and dont need extra cooling

VaLkyR_Anubis · Unreal Old Friend

Sure thing and good point! You know, in my case, my 120mm fans run at 1100-1200rpm, 250mm fan runs at 600-800rpm and my 80mm runs at 1800-1900. Don't know why my 80mm fan runs that fast, because this fan has the same design like 120mm fans. It doesn't disturb and this fan is also not that loud. I recently just slowered down my CPU fan! You know, in the past, there was always something loud in my system, it didn't disturb me, but I knew something was a way too loud. So some days ago, via bios I set my CPU fan from 100% to 60%. Since the moment I got this cooler, it ran at 2400-2500rpm, so to speak 100% and that was really funny.

The funny thing about this is, for years this cooler ran at this speed and now I just slowered it down! Well, it is never too late to change something, aye! The good thing is, my rig is very quiet now! Somehow, I can laugh about myself only! :D

About fan controllers again, some cases have a integrated fan controllers as well. What do you think about this?

Bl!tz · ...ǝp¡s ɹǝɥʇo ǝɥʇ uo

i forgot to add that the case settings on fans often dont allow u to cut down the fans

@BB: lol i m not sure to understand what solution worked for you, my natural misunderstanding tendencie.....what do u mean by breaking the sound barrier? was awfull? no probs here to see a huge improovement on db "rendering"/polution

-- Edited by Bl!tz on Sunday 22nd of January 2012 10:28:35 PM

Bl!tz · ...ǝp¡s ɹǝɥʇo ǝɥʇ uo

VaLkyR_Anubis wrote:

About fan controllers again, some cases have a integrated fan controllers as well. What do you think about this?
imo there s no major difference between a fan controller from a case or from a controller, they should do the same job, if the manufacter is reputed for its quality job...no probs...
though, fan controllers from case rarely allow to control more than 2 or 3 fans...
other alternative if u dont have fan control tool u can install antec fans, they have a lil "button" attached on each and allow u to run the fans @ 3 different speeds...
peeps are often wrong while watching PCs with lot of fans: they think that lot of big fans are going to be noisy
depend what u search but :more fans you have & more big are the fans, less speed u ll have to set to get cooling efficience.
like malk told a 80mm need to run fast to reach same result as a 120 or 140mm...ears pain :p

barballs · Unreal Old Friend

If you are going to get a hardware fan controller just get the Sythe UltraKaze :) I bought one for my PC and I had to take it out because my PC sounded like it was about to break the sound barrier. Apparently the best way to control them is by using one of those hardware controllers. Or so I learned. (couldn't get speedfan to control it)

VaLkyR_Anubis · Unreal Old Friend

@ mAlkAv!An: Aha, so it looks like then, that my fans work like a system. Good to know about that! Always wondered why the 80mm fan is way faster than the others, but to me, the noise is normal. It is not that awfully loud.

I'm familiar with this option, but I haven't found such a option in my bios yet. Hmm, but things are good enough, because in the past, CPU fan speed was at 2400-2500 and now the speed is only at 1200-1400. My CPU is still running pretty cool and it is so very quiet now, hehe! :)

@ Bl!tz: So it depends on what you wann to do and how many fans you got in your case, that's interesting. You know, I asked you this, because when I would buy a new case for me, it probably would be the Thermaltake Chaser MK-I and this one has a integrated fan controller. Just wanted to know, of these integrated can do a good job or not, but according to your infos, they can, as long as you don't have that many fans.

Nevertheless, I believe nowadays you don't need that many fans in a case (just get some big fans only), because there are good cooling solutions for the hardware, e.g. liquid cooling for CPU and for the GPU, go for a DirectCU by ASUS, TwinFrozer by MSI or Phantom by Gainward. I'm telling you this, because my brother got a GTX 580 Phantom and in Battlefield 3, this thing doesn't get hotter than 60°C and he doesn't has a 250mm fan, because of the big CPU cooler.

barballs · Unreal Old Friend

@blitz: I was exaggerating. The fan was just loud. It has fantastic CFM but it is not adjustable. It runs full power. 3000rpm. I was informed that the only way to control fans like that one are with the harware fan controllers.

Bl!tz · ...ǝp¡s ɹǝɥʇo ǝɥʇ uo

@Valkyr: nice case u have chosen here, cable management seems easier than in my dragon rider and build quality seems top notch

i like a lot the lil extra options like the headset hanger or the top HDD plug (even if all thoses access on the top are always dust traps)

dunno if u ve read this review but it s very detailled and shows the beast under all angles + it s a trusted place

Agree with you on the fans, i bet i m a lil excessive but bah !...i know i can sleep in peace, even if one , two or three fans die during my sleep nothing will happen haha^^

about GPU cooling u are right ,MSI superpipe&TwinFrozer by MSI; DirectCU& CU II by ASUS, or Phantom by Gainward are top notch cooling, way more efficient than stock coolings but they change one major factor: they breath inside ur case in contrario to stock coolings who intake air in ur case but exhaust it out of ur case via the rear "hole"...this mean that using one of thoses nice cooling will signyficantly push ur case temperatures up....better to think to add some fans if u want to keep ur mobo as cold as with stock gpu cooling

@BB: thx for the explanations mate...and ...lol^^

VaLkyR_Anubis · Unreal Old Friend

No, never heard something of this website, but thank you for sharing. Read and watched their review! Very informative and well made! However, now I wanna get my hands on this case...much more than before! Just kidding! My current case does a fabulous job!

Damn straight! I got to know this fact, when I bought my GTX550 Ti and compared the cooling solution. I mean, I'm a fan of fans, that's why I like having several fans in my case and even when I would buy this Chaser MKI case, I probably would put so many fans in it as possible, so to speak another 140mm and 2x200mm fans. I believe this cooling solution would not be that loud, because use a nice fan controller and things are done. Nevertheless, I think the reference cooling solution is good enough, only a new 200mm fan as additional GPU cooling would be good.

To me, a PC is like a car. In case of a nice car, you wanna hear the engine, and it is the same thing about the PC. You wanna hear it, but not that much, otherwise it disturbs you somehow! :D

You know, once my brother bought his GTX 580 Phantom, the case temperature didn't increase that much, perhaps 1-3°C, but nothing else. But, this baby runs so cooooooooooooooooool! Somehow fascinating, but also insane, if you take a closer look at the temperature of the reference GTX 580 (according to certain reviews).

mAlkAv!An · calculating Pi by hand

I did similar tests when I wrote my last article for a pc hardware magazine. Basicall SATA-II will limit the transfer rates to a bit less than 300 MB/s (which is the theoretically maximum). There are only few situation where SATA-III has a noticable advantage - espacially with sandforce contoller based SSDs. For everyday tasks like prog/games loading time you won't notice a difference, except you have the stop watch at hand. The largest lead that I was able to measure was a 35% time saving when duplicating 10gb of fully non compressed data. Not speaking about theoretical benchmarks smile

-- Edited by mAlkAv!An on Saturday 4th of February 2012 01:33:35 AM

Bl!tz · ...ǝp¡s ɹǝɥʇo ǝɥʇ uo

interessant comparative sata 3gb/s vs sata 6gb/s

mAlkAv!An · calculating Pi by hand

It's just slower in general, max read/write speeds are both below 300MB/s. Also it's just a SATA 3GB/s drive if I didn't miss something?

Two good reasons why it won't speed up with SATA-III aww

-- Edited by mAlkAv!An on Saturday 4th of February 2012 08:04:27 AM

Bl!tz · ...ǝp¡s ɹǝɥʇo ǝɥʇ uo

thx for the confirmation mate , i remember now why i had the feeling of "deja-vu"...lol

btw do u have an idea why intel ssds performs a level under the other ones in 6gb/s mode?

Bl!tz · ...ǝp¡s ɹǝɥʇo ǝɥʇ uo

mAlkAv!An wrote:
....Also it's just a SATA 3GB/s drive if I didn't miss something?...

OMG.....yeah...i need glasses +.+

DarK · Checkmate mate.

New Rig ;o

I went from a Mini ATX to a tower now haha about time.
I invested alot in a new PC and this is my previous setup vs my new one:
Total was about 500 euro's which is not much. And I could keep the same motherboard from my Mini ATX

Main components:

I had to switch to a Coolermaster Silent Pro 700W power supply in order to get enough power to my videocards :)
Before I used a 400W.

AMD Athlon 64 XII 2.6 ghz < previous ___ now > Intel Quad Core i7 3.8 Turboboost
Nvidia GT8600 < previous ___ now > 2x (SLI) Nvidia GeForce GTX560 < omg, this is a huge improvement for me. What I used to run at 30ms in the editor is now 200ms smooth ;o
4GB DDR3 1066 MhZ < previous ___ now > 8GB DDR3 1066 MhZ

Peripherals:

Logitech mouse lol < previous ___ now > Razer Naga Molten 5600 Dpi mouse :)

Logitech keyboard lol < previous ___ now > Razer Lycosa Mirror keyboard <3 It has an Anti Ghosting function which allows a super smooth response from pressing multiple keys at once without losing a signal.

Let the true mapping begin for me now!

Lord_PorkSword · Connoisseur of Bourbon!

Very nice M8! biggrin

Bl!tz · ...ǝp¡s ɹǝɥʇo ǝɥʇ uo

Lord_PorkSword wrote:
Very nice M8!

...+1...yeah for a change it s a big one... haha

Bl!tz · ...ǝp¡s ɹǝɥʇo ǝɥʇ uo

just to share the info, i recently replaced a "hiper" psu on my sis PC, hopefully she was in the room to stop the beast, the smoke was really impressive and the psu was "in fuse"...lol....it smells not good!
we replaced the dead part by a OCZ stealth serie 700w, it s the second time that i install stealth serie models and tbh i m impressed :price, silent, quality (modular and good packaging) and cherry on the cake: 80plus certification

mAlkAv!An · calculating Pi by hand

Well, without bashing AMD, Intel is the better choice for anything above ~150€, both performance and power consumption wise. 2500k is a fast and good cpu. If you want to spend less than 200€ and if overclocking is not important for you, you might look for a i5-2300/10/20 instead. Even a i3-2100 for ~110€ (which has just 2 cores + HT) is faster than a FX-4170 in average.

Any memory is good. 55€ is a usualy price for (I guess you mean 2x4GB) DDR3-1866. But you won't notice any difference between 1333 and 1866 or 2133 in most non-benchmark situations, so you could rather buy 4x4GB 1333 for nearly the same money. In addition higher memory freqs often require additional voltages to be higher, just to keep that in mind.

-- Edited by mAlkAv!An on Saturday 14th of July 2012 05:26:22 PM