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That's only a part of the whole picture though. Look at the pixel fillrate and memory bandwidth on the 460. GPU clocks are slower but with double the ROP/shader units the 460 is more efficient and therefore much quicker even at a slower clock. Same with memory bandwidth - a slower clock but with much higher bandwidth.

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tbh they are some nice improovement from one to the other:

-65nm vs 40nm
-512mb vs 1024mb
-ddr3 vs ddr5
-dx10 vs dx11

if im not sure about the dx & ddr improvement; 40nm works colder than 60 and the memoryjump allow biggest screens
for the frequencies u can compare them only on same materials; here a G92 in65nm and a GF104 in40 are imo not comparable
but i agree with you mate; it s only a buisness story and thoses who did the jump from the 8xxx to the 9xxx seriesknow that more than others; that s why i always wait the next generation to buy the previous one (u can watch several charts & bench; bugs are mainly fixed; drivers are addapted and updated & prices are acceptable)

from what i have read a 460 is comparable to 2x9800gtx+ or 1x275GTX or a 9800GX2 depending of the oc & cooling and the manufacter

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lol
@mick: havent seen ur post^^

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Whats with the slower clocks the older card are faster weird.

Lord you think I should go with ATI being with Nvidia a long time she be hard ta changing.

Are the 6580 by themselves faster then a Single 470? and whats the Ram configeration on those ATI cards I'm going to have a look.

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I don't know that would be bloody expensive Like $700 bucks



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Overkill for me more like.

Oh yeah thats not my Computer don't use XP anymore at Online access center till the very end of 2010.smile

-- Edited by Bane the Zergling on Thursday 18th of November 2010 12:03:27 AM

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For a dual card solution, go for the 6850's and not the 6870's. 6850's will cost about $450ish, whereas the 6870's will cost $600ish. The 6850 crossfire setup will play everything you need so you won't need to spend that extra 150 bucks on the 70's!

As a single card they perform around the same, with either of them beating the other depending on the test used. In a single card solution though the 460 is more attractive with physx support. In dual setup the blistering speed of the 6850's pretty much negates the physx support of the 460's. IMO
If AMD do a good job on the drivers, in the near future, then we should see even better performance!

Yes I'm tempted to switch back to AMD cards with those speeds! Mid December will be an interesting time!

Regarding slower clocks on newer cards(cpu's as well) is perfect sence. The newer hardware can process more information at any given time, so higher clocks aren't necessary to perform faster than old tech.


Apart from that I'm picking up the new NFS game tonight..looking forward to giveing it a good run l8r on!

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Lord_PorkSword wrote:
That's only a part of the whole picture though. Look at the pixel fillrate and memory bandwidth on the 460. GPU clocks are slower but with double the ROP/shader units the 460 is more efficient and therefore much quicker even at a slower clock. Same with memory bandwidth - a slower clock but with much higher bandwidth.
Some stuffs still not logical to me but you right ;)


Bl!tz wrote:
tbh they are some nice improovement from one to the other:


-65nm vs 40nm
-512mb vs 1024mb
-ddr3 vs ddr5
-dx10 vs dx11

of course ;)


I just discover that I cannot put 2x 9800 gtx in sli, my MB just support ati "cross fire", damn !!

 



-- Edited by NOVA on Monday 22nd of November 2010 06:53:05 PM

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Just like me nova ****s yeah.

Sorry to hear that bro.

You one buy a new mb or two get a ati card.

The motherboard path is expensive I looked into that.

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Well I've tryed the 6850 in for a 460 for 270 got of $50.

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Bane the Zergling wrote:

Well I've tryed the 6850 in for a 460 for 270 got of $50.



 ??? no idea what u want to say here mate +.+



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Sorry Bl!tz m8 it's ment to say trade.

Don't know what I was thinking at the time lol.

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haha... ok i understand now ,thx wink.gif

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Compering the two cards together here is my out come thanks to Nova's map.

ATI HD 6850 - DM-Korumi, FPS Lowest: 95, Avg: 172, Highest: 213

Nvidia GTX 460 - DM-Korumi, FPS Lowest: 100, Avg: 200, Highest: 248

Nvidia wins by along shot on my accord.

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Bane the Zergling wrote:

Compering the two cards together here is my out come thanks to Nova's map.

ATI HD 6850 - DM-Korumi, FPS Lowest: 95, Avg: 172, Highest: 213

Nvidia GTX 460 - DM-Korumi, FPS Lowest: 100, Avg: 200, Highest: 248

Nvidia wins by along shot on my accord.


héhé...that s clear! interressant comparation m8 smile.gif

 



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Interesting stats!
Normally the 6850 should be quikker so I wonder if physics are making the difference?
The 460s are brilliant cards and I'm very happy with mine!

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Same seems faster more stable then the 6850 I had.

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looks not bad:

http://www.tcmagazine.com/tcm/news/hardware/34599/msi-geforce-gtx-560-ti-twin-frozr-ii-oc-graphics-card-pre-order

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That's the same cooling solution on my 460's! Works very very nicely!

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yup same here too...top notch biggrin.gif

i was "addict" of MSI gfxs...and i m really impressed by their mobos, cpu 12 v atx 8 pins(4 only on asus)...impressive heatpipes...MSI FTW!

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Korumi & nvidia rule ! lol

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lol....nice avatar biggrin.gif...korumi....korumi?....+.+....cant remember !...a map from you? a tamagoshi? tatoo ink?....omfg...pills!

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rofl
yes you need a ton of pills I'm afraid lol

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...un manga?...de la biere chinoise?...une prise de judo?....zZzZzZzZ...... -.-

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