Hey Seb !!!

I'm happy to read that life is goign good couzin

THX for sharing, it look like a fun map, I can see you didn't loose the touch héhé

Hey brothers, thx for your warm welcome, it's nice ;)

Just to say to not take account of the design, it's actually a mix of 2 directions (sf-x or old building), I think go to the second...

Oh and don't pay attention to the music too, it's just for me lol, I will change it for something more conventional, or at least according to the deco theme I will choose ;)

The bot pathing is really early too, but tell me what you think about the weapons placement and the gameplay, especially with the multiple jumpad (those who lead to the flack, personnaly I love). I think put some lifts in the future too.

Thx, bye bye !

Bl!tz wrote:

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a bit too much jumpad to my tastes (glad to hear u ll perhaps replace some of em by some lifts)

Lol I have thougth keep the jumpads + add lifts !

But by thinking, I can replace the jumpad on the botom close to the RL by a lift (and keep ability to jump with liftjump), and remove the second jumpad on the platform above the UD, for the others, I keep it !

other detail i m not a fan of double damage and berserk in same map but bah ...i bet it s personnal feeling

I know, but it's for my pleasure, and I have try to make difficult to take the berserk... Oh, and what you will tell if you have found the invisibility under water lol

i found weird to have the rocket launcher on this lil island, the place worth something better imo (armor,shield belt or DD)...i found too risky to go there just to grab the RL which i found fun to use from the top but not really from the bottom

I have try something here... I will wait what think others guys before change that, and maybe put an armor instead, it's an ideal place for that !

dunno exactly what u plane to do with the windows: BV or playable areas?

Yes, BV + old rusty grid or something

the layout allows all kind of mooves like always on your maps and it s pure fun to play on them
nice start.....keep it up, the map rock solid!

Merci frangin ;)

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So I had a good match on it & it's a good start :)

The layout is very cool, lot's of gameplay possibilities. The triming is great :D

What I think is to much is the powerups. 1 would suffice taking the size of the map. Bots have trouble navigating underwater anyway. The Udamage placement is good imo.

About pickups placement,

- RL placement is a bit weird & would be more suitable for a armor like the vest.
- The platform where 2 medium health are located beside the flak is cool but the jumpad nearby are more annoying than anything else. I would remove both jumpad because after all if you go there, it must be a bit risky for 50 health points. Now you get out of that area to quickly.
- There is an opening below the helmet, I thought that was a lift at first. A lift there would be good because the access to that small platform is not that easy.
- Some medium health placement would be better if there was not in the middle of the corridor / path imo.

As for the rest of the pickups it seem ok but I'll need to play more.

Since you don't know which theme you'll choose, I won't bother commenting the visual (but I must say I like the sky). The audio track is good too (couzin Eric don't like trance music hihi :p. BTW, I have the original mix of that song on a 12 inch and it's a blast!).

Hey Nova,

Great work on DM-Brave, I like the novel layout. The water shader had me quite mesmerized - very tropical. Top effort on the announcer awards - they so much flare to the level. :D

I'm biased against the berserk but I'll thats just my personal preference. There is a player start that is right on top of a jump pad - i found it added too much chaos when acquiring first weapon.  I'd suggest avoiding landing on the jump pad, else increase the stringency (lower freedom of movement) for that pad. Little else stood out, if I get more time I'll post more impressions. Its great fun to have a new map, I'm really dig the custom assets, keep up the good work.

-- Edited by Achernar on Saturday 2nd of June 2012 01:47:53 PM

Hello, guys ;)

I'm at office now so no time to make a big reply, just to thanks you for your comments, I have take accounts of its and you can expect a beta 5 soon ;)

bye!

Nice Map. The layout feels ut2k4-ish with a little touch of quake.
The new style looks good. Quite harmonious and the base color combination is also well done.

I've been up in the country(Lucindale SA) for the last two days so I haven't had a chance to have a looksie but I'll check it out sometime soon!!

Ya backdrop, from the pic, looks very nice and relaxing!

-- Edited by Lord_PorkSword on Wednesday 27th of June 2012 01:50:47 PM

This map looks refreshing from the start (according to the two screenies). I'll try it out soon. Sorry for not trying your "Beta 4" version for my humble exhibition.

-- Edited by Tux Android on Wednesday 27th of June 2012 07:21:38 PM

B7, damn, what happened to B5 & B6 LOL

Will try it asap couzin, the new pic look way much better, specially the lighting & the material changes :D

Hey Nova,  very much enjoyed this level.  Music is fantastic as are the kismet sequences.

Just a few points I noticed:

 

Here and a few places, add a few more piece of edging.

As an alternative the passage to the thigh pads area : create a lift for articulation to some of the hight pionts?

 

 

These palms are just spectacular, very well done.

 

Keep up the great work.

Had a quickmatch & I must say all the layout / pickup changes / added lifts are for the better :D

As Achernar mention, a bit of trimming in pic # 2 would be good. As for the visuals, lighting is much better & the updated materials fit's very well.

Small things :

- Palm trees are looking good but they need to have more darker spots beneath their "branches", they are light to uniform. Make sure your using lightmap not vertex lighting.
- I suggest you use Nobiax plants instead of the default ones & his textures for the floor, your level will look much better & more custom. He have many textures that can fit this map very well :)
- I don't think the music fit's well. Maybe for a match or 2 but if your planning to play more, it get on your nerves (this comment is coming from a guy who listen electronic music 50% of his listening time lol).

I'll try to play more but this is what I found in my few matches.

Keep up the great work cousin :)

Achernar wrote:

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Hey Nova,  very much enjoyed this level.  Music is fantastic as are the kismet sequences.

Just a few points I noticed:

 You think there is too much deep bias ?

Here and a few places, add a few more piece of edging.

Be sure it's on work ;)

 

As an alternative the passage to the thigh pads area : create a lift for articulation to some of the hight pionts?

 

Actually you have the jumpad (in front of the thigh pads) who leads to the upper part of the map and I think it's enough.

 

These palms are just spectacular, very well done.

Thx, but you have to say that to Diesalot, I have took thems on its map "island hope" or something like that.

 

 Keep up the great work.

I try, thx for your suggestions !

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stevelois wrote:

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Ah, well, the floor material I like more is the stone one in the first pic to the left.

The metal look good too but not as good as the stone imo. Therefore, the trimming make it look better & fit's like a glove.

The metal triming come from UT2k4 as the metal floor, so it's not "eye candy" but participate to the 2k4 ambient ;) However, I will see what I can obtain for the floor with tweak a bit the normal map...

 

The wood is ok but need to look older / damaged to look on par with the stone / metal material.

Actually I have added a dirty layer on it, but I don't want add this effect too much to keep the aspect of wood "attacked" by salt, who make sence cause the ocean arround...

But I have in mind to make some bsp work on the wood planks on some places to obtain break/damaged effect ;)

And plz, stop changing the audio track everytime you release a beta damn it !!! LOLLL

MDR, You know I play at least as much as I work on a map so it's refreshing for my ears to change music from time to time ah ah ! (this one is a remix I have make but definitly not fit the theme, be reassured)

I forgot to say the last time that the announcements are awesome :D

Eh eh, THX, my personal touch as always, those announcements are my addiction to that game !

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 CYA !

-- Edited by NOVA on Thursday 5th of July 2012 05:38:05 PM

Hey Seb.

Glad to see you back Bro....

Im gonna be back here too. Have to get back to mapping.

Very nice palm trees buddy.....LOL

Hey bro.

You dont need permission to use anything of mine, use what you like its all for mapping buddy.

mAlkAv!An wrote

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 Just give it a serious texture/material rework and those metal trims will look great.

You all want give me extra work on this map, damn lol

And yeah, those cobble stones are crying out for a nice normal map and bump offset. The stones color also does not fit that well, I would turn down the colorfulness and adjust the teint.

 This material has been already tweak by me, but as you I'm not totally satisfy by it, need more work... 

For the floor wood texture you should consider making it seamlessly tileable and less blurry since it has that large scaling.

Yeah you're right, but I'm not confortable with those kind of work. If you wanna help me, you're welcome !

 

http://unrealoldfriends.activeboard.com/t49826883/ut3-high-res-textures/

Just looking your post, very interesting ;)

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 THX mate !

mAlkAv!An wrote:

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No problem, I always like to do some little textur and modeling work. Just send me a PM or post a download link.

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Great, I appreciate ;)

Ok so this is the link to 3 textures (2 Border metal and the plank):

http://www.gamefront.com/files/21953435/Brave_Tex.zip

The plank texture is not seamless, if you can make something to that too ;)

You have your time, I'm not in the hurry.

THX in advance Olivier !

mAlkAv!An wrote:

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Okidoki :)
Except it anytime next week. Here's a sneak preview of the wooden planks:
http://h9.abload.de/img/dmbrave_wood1yaxqy.jpg

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 Great, it's tileable now, you're a magician lol

-Actually I was thinking the water material needs some depth biased alpha - as you can see the plane as you pass through it.  I can prep some instructions if you need for the shader.
-I see you did not add any grunge to the brick material under water - you must have some ninjas cleaning it considering how many times it serve as a kill zone. 
-Fair point about the jump pad ex thigh pad.
-More to Diesalot for the palms

Oh yeah one more factor please re-jig player starts closer to weapons.

Overall this is a very fun, hard core map with very pleasing visuals. I really like the new pics, looking forward to trying the RC/ Final...

Keep up the good work 

Yes, this is how you can derive a variation texture from one of the stock textures. But it will give you just an 'overall' result.

 

What about something like this instead? Same brick material everywhere, no BSP rework:

 

 

Similar method as beeing used here: http://oliverm-h.blogspot.de/2012/06/distance-based-texture-blending-ue3udk.html

-- Edited by mAlkAv!An on Monday 9th of July 2012 09:19:56 PM

Nobiax models don't have a second uv channel for lightmaps either, just saying.

 

NOVA wrote:

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Achernar wrote:

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-I see you did not add any grunge to the brick material under water - you must have some ninjas cleaning it considering how many times it serve as a kill zone.

lol

Hum it will be a pretty much work to make that by considering the construction of the BSP at this place, I will see if I have the time to make that or adding decals...

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It is possible do a texture blending completely in the material editor, based on the world z-axis. All you need is a grunge texture that is beeing added to the base material.

This is the important part of the material:



The result is being plugged into a Lerp node. On the Lerp node you use the regular texture (B input) and the dirt variation version (A input).

 

I can upload the textures from the screen if you want to give 'em a try.

-- Edited by mAlkAv!An on Tuesday 10th of July 2012 11:49:30 AM

wow....looking very good with Malk's "touch"