u can find longer SLI briges for very cheap prices on EBay
i never understood why manufacters often put the x16 on the pcie slots 1 & 2, like it happen to you they are too close
for first time i had luck and i have the x16 on slots 1 & 3....=-10 ° on the 1st gfx....
fyi i did some trys in the past about the gain between x16 or x8 for the second GFX(to try to get more distance) and i never found a noticeable improvement between the two mode....imo the °gain worth it (to have 1 gfx in x8^^)
s**t that u re so far i have 3 unused sli bridges here...one is so long that i ask me where they planed to use it...lol

Wow Blitzy, love your thread, it's very interesting to read & your chart is simply awesome !

Look like you had some serious fun with all this new components :D

You have been busy. 

Glad to hear your remain solid and the colour has returned.

Did a little data summary to try and get my old head around the results >

haha nice one achernar m8, shame that 3dm06 only store 10 results because lot of results have gone, got 3 accounts= 30 results only , and i noticed the scores storage limitations too late
cant wait to see some results on the new board with oc & sli working together,just to try to justify the money spend and to beat that lil blue point floatting @ the top of the results (870AFuzion) +.+
thx for the graph

Haha, now where I made a little break from overclocking and spend more time on mapping/modelling blitz is doing it the other way around.
Anyway my next dice session will be in septemer - visitors/participants welcome



3DM06 is very CPU power dependant, espacially if you are using a CF/SLi setup or a fast single card. I've already got 28k points with 2 old HD3870 (~same level as 8800GT)

The formula for calculating 3DM06 score is as follows:

3DMark06-Score = 2.5 * 1 / ((1.7/GFX-points + 0.3/CPU-points) / 2)

with: GFX-points = 0.5 * (SM2-points + SM3-points)

 

Just type another CPU score like 10k f.e. and see how much the final score is changing :)

 

If you are looking for alternatives try Unigine HEaven Benchmark f.e. This one only depends on the GPU power, is for free and also has a DX9 and DX11 modus.

 

 

 

 

 

mAlkAv wrote:

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Haha, now where I made a little break from overclocking and spend more time on mapping/modelling blitz is doing it the other way around.
Anyway my next dice session will be in septemer - visitors/participants welcome

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lol...i m a tourist in both, will keep an eye on ur next session f sure  

 

mAlkAv wrote:

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3DM06 is very CPU power dependant, espacially if you are using a CF/SLi setup or a fast single card. I've already got 28k points with 2 old HD3870 (~same level as 8800GT)

The formula for calculating 3DM06 score is as follows:

3DMark06-Score = 2.5 * 1 / ((1.7/GFX-points + 0.3/CPU-points) / 2)

with: GFX-points = 0.5 * (SM2-points + SM3-points)

 

Just type another CPU score like 10k f.e. and see how much the final score is changing :)

 

If you are looking for alternatives try Unigine HEaven Benchmark f.e. This one only depends on the GPU power, is for free and also has a DX9 and DX11 modus.

 

 

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 that s exactly why i keep my butt on 3DM06, always interressant to compare results while changing cpu...and gpu, gives an accurate idea about what really change something + i hate 3DM vantage registering key system + i only play UT3 & crysis, both are GFX & Cpu demanding and i found 3DM06 scoring close & representative how performs thoses games on my rigs

 thx for the explanations bout the scoring

i ll try the bench u re pointing to...under DX9...lol^^

@achernar:  GTX285 is still under DX10....no real interrest to try a DX11 tool....and imo it just will not work, super pie and such are top notch but only focused on cpu = too far from games to me

thx m8, i DL the setup full.exe one

here are the first results, n1 with SLI enabled, n2 with SLI off:





HOC_UT3 Benchmark:


The benchmark started at 17/11/2009 08:46:03

System Information
Operating system: Windows (TM) Vista Ultimate
System memory: 7933 MB
CPU: AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 940 Processor
CPU speed: 3200 MHz
Graphics card: NVIDIA nForce 750a SLI 9800gtx+ - 0 MB
Benchmark Information
Benchmark type: Flyby
Demo: vCTF-Corruption
Motion Blur: Enabled
Hardware Physics: Disabled
Anisotropic filtering: 16×

Resolution: 1680 × 1050 (Custom)
Score = 160 FPS



The benchmark started at 24/11/2009 10:19:05

System Information
Operating system: Windows 7 Ultimate
System memory: 7934 MB
CPU: AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 940 Processor
CPU speed: 3500 MHz
Graphics card:NVIDIA nForce 750a SLI 9800gtx+ - 0 MB
Comment: phenom3.2ghz-w7-sli9800gtx+
Benchmark Information
Benchmark type: Flyby
Demo: vCTF-Corruption
Motion Blur: Enabled
Hardware Physics: Disabled
Anisotropic filtering: 16×

Resolution: 1680 × 1050 (Custom)
Score = 223 FPS

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The benchmark started at 17/11/2010 01:20:01

System Information
Operating system: Windows 7 Ultimate
System memory: 7934 MB
CPU: AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1090T Processor
CPU speed: 3520 MHz
Graphics card: SLI 2 x 285gtx-oc
Benchmark Information
Benchmark type: Flyby
Demo: vCTF-Corruption
Motion Blur: Disabled
Hardware Physics: Disabled
Anisotropic filtering: 16×

Resolution: 1680 × 1050 (Custom)
Score = 256 FPS

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will do a new one asap

about Crysis HOC bench...neva have succed to get it workin

in game (Crysis1):

with the 870AFuzion and the 1090t at 4.0ghz + 2xGTX285, with fraps on, it was something like:

very high: around 60 FPS with some significant drop downs when lot of action on complex environements & lightings & shadowing (drop downs to 30 fps)

high: quite stable between 80/100 fps with some occasionnal & isolated drop downs (50fps mini)

very nice bench that unigine one , thx for the link

just grabed a new one from guru3d called "Crysis benchmark", i just found a new...old ut3 one called UT3 bench , thoses i was using/trying to use was HOC_UT3 & Crysis...lol just tryed to run the HOC_UT3 one...which bug now haha^^

I think HyperPi is nice but just has no large circulation. Certain reviewers are using it for each mainboard review but the majority of the community is not used to it. wPrime seems to be more common if it comes to multi-threaded CPU benchmarks.

@Blitz
There are several benchmark tools for Crysis but it's not easy to compare between different Flybys. Have a look in your Crysis install directory /Bin32 and open the batch file "Benchmark_GPU". Thats the built-in benchmark which can be used with every copy of the game or the demo (which is for free).

Hd5850 result at 1920x1080, 16:1 AF, 4xAA(ingame):

I finally got a 9cm SLi bridge today. The extra length allowed me to chuck my 2nd card in the 4x PCI-E slot so I have a 5cm gap between the cards.
The result....a 40 degree drop in GPU temps!!! LOLz    
Running Crysis 2 (with all DX11 gizmos) before was overheating the cards forcing me to declock from 811Mhz to 710Mhz. The primary card was running around 98degrees and the secondary card around high 70's.
In Crysis 2 now, with the longer bridge, both cards now only hit the high 60's running at their factory overclocked speeds. Great to see the twinFrozr fans finally making their claim to keep the cards cool!

On top of this my PC is is 10 times quieter as I now don't need the loud side fan any more!

Only prob is that the shipping cost was twice the amount of the bridge itself.... :(

-- Edited by Lord_PorkSword on Monday 29th of August 2011 10:02:54 AM

glad to hear that, recommended uses of slots 1&2 when they are close make no sence...even if they are the x16 ones

+1 to malkavs question

I've only played Crysis 2 for about 20 mins and I haven't noticed any performance loss.
From benchmarks in the past I think the performance loss was roughly -5 - 10fps when a second card goes from x16 to x4.

I don't own a copy of Crysis 2 but as far as I know they re-enabled the console commands with the DX11 patch, including r_displayinfo=1?
5-10 fps from what base frame rate? Going from 16 to 4 lanes can be a serious bandwith cut - a higher PCI-E clock can compensate this a bit.

 

-- Edited by mAlkAv on Monday 29th of August 2011 12:28:33 PM

@Bl!tz

Well it wasn't meant to be joke but can truthfully be interpreted both ways. :D

@mAlkAv
I too an not an owner of this game, but I'm glad to hear they put it back.

@LPS
I'm interested in a before and after comparison - you could also cook an egg on the GPU while taking measurements. Sort of a comparison of methods experiment - egg frying vs digital readout.

? Which is more accurate.

i wasnt happy with the CPU temperatures under OC so i ve reseat the cooling with new thermal paste
when i installed it, my stock of noctuah & AC mx2 was off so i rushed to the local shop and buyed what i found :cooler master "high performance" paste
@ first application it jumped to my eyes that the quality wasnt good , not homogen with some more liquid parts(the price was a bit up though ) so i decided to give a try to the Artic mx4 and... wow... really a nice product, easy to apply, homogen, and efficient

-cpu @ 3.8ghz:

here on pict "B" with the old cooler master goo(fans @ 100%):



*here on pict "A" with mx4: (A1 fans on "silent mode" & A2 fans @ 100%)

-cpu @ 4.00ghz:

*with old paste the cpu needed 1.45v to reach 4.00ghz but was giving errors under OCCT cpu stress, now it s stabble and needs only 1.44v....cold is the key :

nothing to add on the results , they speak by themselves, just to proove the importance of the thermal paste

hmmm so can ya SLI the 285's for gfx then SLi the 8800's for physX?
If ya can that'd probably work quite nicely! I just hope you have enough power connectors...LOL!

i finally was allowed by children to completly dispatched the second pc and to build the best what i can without my main mobo and in asecond time i was allowed by wife to not reinstall bit defender...UT3 plays better than never, cool

opened a ticket last week on BitDefenders customer supports site about UT3 and BitDefender2011 not working together
got an answer yesterday, was allowed to install BitDefender2012....and guess what? it work like a charm
....still waiting news from my mobo

yo brothas,

just some words to tell that i had some pc adventures theses last weeks:
-my main mobo was a "wrong" one and not working correctly so i ve send it back to my reseller who sended it back to msi after examen(problem confirmed)
-so....i m on my second pc after lot of assembling /dispatching i found that one of my 8800gt was dead (giving me randomly the "graphic driver have shut down and have been restarted"+ a black screen....fixed by using only the other gfx
-i had lot of ram problems (memory satured) because a wrong java install , fixed too but the ram still very slow...haha

so i decided to be patient and i ve rebuild the second PC for my children and i m tweakin all what i can to optimize it
the result is cool and work nicely even if it a bit light for the mapping operations to my tastes
my children are in a "minecraft" period and as they are in hols for two weeks i try to share this experience with em...really fun game and interressant concept but ...tbh....visually i hate it

sorry to be off some days more, i keep an eye here of course but i m still off ut world till my pc is back, having good time with children is so good for the old monkey

boyah!

yup if i was abble to "accept " the cubical looking...the texturing is so poor...rofl....probably the only way to manage such tremendous areas and to keep it playable for middle class PCs (kicking hard in the RAM & in the cpu!)
...what i can add is that i find it very addictive, it s so easy to handle it that it s open to everyone...agree with you here too, nice introduction to the mapping world, even if the jump from minecraft to UE require lot of courage, leaving such a "lazy tool" isnt easy...héhéhé

oh...other point i noticed is how it improve ur aiming if u play with the cam /jetpack view and try to moove while adding/substracting cubes

Must be that suspect AMD hardware that you keep buying M8!    

 

Gunna upgrade a Mates PC tonight b4 we get drunk n play Rock Band.  BF3 was taking 2-3 minutes longer than mine to load levels and was somewhat unstable. New system should give his gfx card a good run 4 it's money!

He's going from a Q8400 based system(4 gig DDR2-800) to a i7-2600k, SSD based rig.

Specs: i7-2600K, Gigabyte UD3P-B3, 8gig DDR3 1333 G-Skill RAM, Patriot PYRO 128Gb SSD.  He'll use his old case and 5870 video card, and I'll recommend picking up a 2nd card sometime over xmas!   

-- Edited by Lord_PorkSword on Friday 11th of November 2011 02:13:20 AM

troublemaker was the velociraptor HDD, all work fine since i replaced it by a barracuda and a frech w7 install, hopefully it s a 5 yrz warranty so i m gonna send it back to the manufacter tommorow
i rarely was such in pain to identify where was coming the freezes from....+.+

Mmm liquid cooling.
I'm tempted to get something like this for xmas. Maybe the H60 though.(so it fits better in my case)
Then I can finally OC my 920 for the first time.