Damn...

3 things I just realize.

- On the blue side, there is a SM that as the red stripe on it instead of blue.

- I forgot to add the new triggervolume on the blue side for greed.

- The medium health near the Enforcer in the red side as moved for a unknown reason ???

All this is fixed. Just want to let ya know m8's.

A most excellent map sir and my hat off to you for this one!

I didn't think you could top your last CTF map but you've proven me wrong with this masterpiece of meshing, layout and pure fun!

Didn't play with my son as he made some bad choices about his behaviour so we'll give it a shot in a day or two!

First off....  a big thanx for allowing me to get to the Deemer without the use of a mutator.    I really like how you've done it as well.  That green on the supports makes it standout quite nicely to attract attention to it! 

I'm happy to report that I saw bots using the upper right corridor(where the shock rifle pickup is) more this time.  The bots(adept) played very nicely and it was quite a nice challenge that wasn't impossible to get flag caps!  The opposing team never scored but they did get very close on atleast 3 occasions.(within 20 meters of their flag base)

Now if you don't win a few fans with this map then there's seriously something wrong with the community M8!

Now 2 issues 4 ya!

I think you have already found this one:

2nd thing is some peeps might have fun with their framerate.  Below is the slowest part of the map for me (with 15 Adept bots):

For me it's no probs cuz 61 is still a very nice framerate!    FYI the map averaged around 110fps for myself.  Generally it was between 90-190+.

Honestly I'd like to say don't remove anything and tell peeps on slower machines not to take this route M8!  lolz  

I didn't notice any other issues, but then again I wasn't really looking as I was dazzled by the amount of detail you've put in!

 ...now it's time to play some greed!

EDIT:  At first I was worried about greed on this map but after a minute or two things kicked up a nice notch and the action started flowing.

I played with 20 combatants on Adept and had many occasions where I'd run into a wall of about 6 blue bots charging at me.  Was hell of a blast!

Bots played Greed rather well with both teams scoring regularly throughout the match!(20 minutes)

yo steve,
i m not a fan of CTF but hell this one is fun to play
bots are excellent and use very well the zaxe, i played it with the dodge jump mutator and the only way where i found em "stuck" was when i was jumping here

for the rest i didnt find anything to say about the gameplay, fun and original with lot of mooves n jumps...nice job

on the visual side i m impressed too, ur last maps are more epured and less overmeshed imho, and the result here is another masterpiece, ur meshing & texturing are top notch and the lighting on all that is perfect, dark and full of contrasts

the music is superb and fits like a glove and this nighty sky add the cherry on the cake...pure UT athmosphere

thx brotha for this nice map, i m gonna play more CTF for sure

compliments from my son , he like a lot ur strong jumppads and ur "vapor" effects

Ok, as promised, here is my feedback for RC 1.

Like others have mentioned, this map really shows your talent and dedication to making a high quality map.  I really like the theme of the map and you have pulled off another great example of how to mesh a map.

The sky box and water are very cool and you have to risk dieing to really appreciate them.  The sounds were excellent as you always hear something and no sound cut off too quickly.

I also like the layout of this map (as with Fatima <sp>) as it's not so linear of a CTF layout.  This makes it very fun for Greed, which is how I will be enjoying the map!

I have said it before, but it's worth repeating, I have great respect for your skills and your commitment to getting the most out of your maps.

Regarding your motivation to map for UT 3, if your still motivated to map, find a way to keep mapping.  At times, it seems you might over load yourself with how many maps you are currently working on. 

But if UT 3 doesn't motivate you and UDK does, try to use that.  If anything, stick with it, but maybe do a little less, but be consistent with it.

I have gone through long periods of time when I didn't map and now I wish I stayed with it more consistently as I do seem to always get the "itch" to create levels.  Luckily with UT 3 and your guys involvement, I have been able to do this.

Played a round of greed and I was trying not to be "picky", but just to see if I would notice something while playing.

The only "picky" thing I will mention is some of the glass floors don't have proper foot step sounds, not a big issue though.

I guess I lied because I finally found the Udamage area. Iirc, the bottom emitter for each teleporter (inside the normal map) is a yellowish color, with a red or blue smokey emitter. Would be nice if the colors matched for the red one. I think the blue one matches?

A part of me thinks you shouldn't be able to teleport to the other teams base, but that's way too much work than it's worth.

I didn't check the editor, but do you have a teleporation setup that's only around each flag base and only teleports people with skulls? I like the concept, but wonder if should be included around the entire map. Skulls are a precious thing to lose.

Other than that, it looks like the map is ready to be played. Excellent work my friend.

The final is here

I've decided to upload it & share the final with you my OUF friends before anyone else

My official release will be december 1st on my site, Epic & Mapraider.

For the final, I've fix all issues related to the glass sound everywhere & fix / add collisions / BV in the belt corridor on both side + other minors things.

Enjoy my 2 years old project. I'm done at last

Lord_PorkSword wrote:

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Gratz M8!
Superb effort on this one!

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 +1 congratz Stevie, a must have!

sorry i missed the RC2 ...but it was also perfect to me in RC1

Ha ha ha!

THX bud, & the smilies are very cute