I'm performing a full rebuild but I was wondering, do I need to redo all playerstart by removing the regular playerstart & add teamplayerstart ?

Yup, that crash is caused by the 'unpublished' DOM files not being located in the correct place.
Did the DOM installer ask if you wanted to add the 'unpublished' files?

And yes you are correct about having to change all the PlayerStarts for TeamPlayerstarts. I'll update the Tutorial!

I've updated the tutorial and have added a link for the required unpublished files.

Lord_PorkSword wrote:

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Next change any PlayerStart Actors to UTTeamPlayerStart actors and don't forget to set the teams on the actors!

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UTTeamPlayerStart actors are NOT required. Actualy I would recomend to use a normal PlayerStart actor, unless your map would have to have it.

From the source code of the UTDom.xDoubleDom class

/** Should not be used. If False and playing on a map with no TeamPlayerStart actors (e.g. most DOM maps) players will not beable to spawn.
 * True=players can spawn at any playerstarts, False=players spawn in marked team playerstarts. */
var() config bool bNoTeamPlayerStart;

And at the end of that class, the default setting is set to:

DefaultProperties
{
  ...
   bNoTeamPlayerStart=True

Cheers for the heads up Snake!

Odedge wrote:

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 In my first converted map (from DM), I set a bunch of red player starts on one end of the map and blue on the other.

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If you do use TeamPlayerStarts, remember that you will have to set TeamPlayerStarts for Green and Gold teams.

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IIRC, At the start of the round, the red don't always start at the red team starts (but the red team always start at the same side).

Upown respawning, it seems the game mode places you at a team start that's furtherst away from other players (enemy team).

@ Snake

Is there a way to have spawn points that only work at the start of the map, then all respawns happen at a different player start?

Also, I noticed that friend flire is on by default, any way to disable this for offline play?  I checked my mutators and they aren't causing this.

Thanks for a great game mode!

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For the spawning thing, currently there is no way that I know of to do that.... you might beable to setup some kismet that could do what you want. The only other way I can think of to have to work would be to write mutator and import the .u file into your map.

FriendlyFire is set from the mutator. My guess would be to check your MyDocs\MyGames UTGame.ini file and delete the following 2nd line if it exists:

[UTGameSettingsTDM_InstantActionMenu SettingsProfile]
PropertySettings=(Property="CustomMutClasses",Value="UTGame.UTMutator_FriendlyFire")

Yeah you got it on the team numbers when using UTTeamPlayerStart actors. DOMTeamStaticMesh actors have one more TeamNum. From the class comments of DOMTeamStaticMesh class:

 * More advanced UTTeamStaticMesh. The exact UTGameObjective actor that will be monitoring, can be manualy set.
 * No longer limited to only the 0 index to change the material on.
 *
 * Setup the TeamMaterials array using the following format:
 *  TeamMaterials[0]=Red Team
 *  TeamMaterials[1]=Blue Team
 *  TeamMaterials[2]=Green Team
 *  TeamMaterials[3]=Gold Team
 *  TeamMaterials[4]=Neutral
 * Writen by Brian 'Snake' Alexander. Copyright(c) 2007-2010 All Rights Reserved.
 */
class DOMTeamStaticMesh extends UTTeamStaticMesh;

FYI and just in case for anyone else wants to know the TeamID used by ControlPointFactory is as follows:

 

• Red Team = 0
• Blue Team = 1
• Green Team = 2
• Gold Team = 3
• Neutral = 4
• Disabled = 5

This is only really useful when making kismet in your DOM map

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In DOM, Freindly Fire is not enabled by default and I would suggest 1st taking a look at your log file right after loading a dom map and you are still getting the friendly fire on, exit the game and open the log file

\My Documents\My Games\Unreal Tournament 3\UTGame\Logs\Launch.log

and your looking for the section where it starts to load the map, and look at what you have in your log that at the same place as the following lines in bold:

ScriptLog: UTUIFrontEnd: Starting Game...open DOM-Condemned?game=UTDom.Domination?MaxPlayers=16?MinNetPlayers=0?NumPublicConnections=16?NumPrivateConnections=0?NumOpenPublicConnections=0?NumOpenPrivateConnections=0?bShouldAdvertise=True?bIsLanMatch=False?bUsesStats=True?bAllowJoinInProgress=True?bAllowInvites=True?bUsesPresence=True?bAllowJoinViaPresence=True?bUsesArbitration=False?bIsDedicated=False?bIsListPlay=False?OwningPlayerName=?GameMode=4?Difficulty=5?PureServer=1?LockedServer=0?Campaign=0?ForceRespawn=0?GoalScore=100?TimeLimit=20?ServerDescription=?NumPlay=8?mutator=UTGame.UTMutator_FriendlyFire?name=Wr@ith?alias=Wr@ith
Log: Browse: DOM-Condemned?name=Wr@ith?team=255?Class=?game=UTDom.Domination?MaxPlayers=16?MinNetPlayers=0?NumPublicConnections=16?NumPrivateConnections=0?NumOpenPublicConnections=0?NumOpenPrivateConnections=0?bShouldAdvertise=True?bIsLanMatch=False?bUsesStats=True?bAllowJoinInProgress=True?bAllowInvites=True?bUsesPresence=True?bAllowJoinViaPresence=True?bUsesArbitration=False?bIsDedicated=False?bIsListPlay=False?OwningPlayerName=?GameMode=4?Difficulty=5?PureServer=1?LockedServer=0?Campaign=0?ForceRespawn=0?GoalScore=100?TimeLimit=20?ServerDescription=?NumPlay=8?mutator=UTGame.UTMutator_FriendlyFire?alias=Wr@ith
Log: Award progress has now been fully reenabled!
Log: LoadMap: DOM-Condemned?name=Wr@ith?team=255?Class=?game=UTDom.Domination?MaxPlayers=16?MinNetPlayers=0?NumPublicConnections=16?NumPrivateConnections=0?NumOpenPublicConnections=0?NumOpenPrivateConnections=0?bShouldAdvertise=True?bIsLanMatch=False?bUsesStats=True?bAllowJoinInProgress=True?bAllowInvites=True?bUsesPresence=True?bAllowJoinViaPresence=True?bUsesArbitration=False?bIsDedicated=False?bIsListPlay=False?OwningPlayerName=?GameMode=4?Difficulty=5?PureServer=1?LockedServer=0?Campaign=0?ForceRespawn=0?GoalScore=100?TimeLimit=20?ServerDescription=?NumPlay=8?mutator=UTGame.UTMutator_FriendlyFire?alias=Wr@ith
ScriptLog: Desc: 
Log: Starting memory preloaded movie...UT_loadmovie8 (Copyright_PC)
Log: Waiting for memory preloaded movie to finish loading ...
Log: Playing movie [UT_loadmovie8]
Log: Got memory preloaded movie event!!!
Log: ClearAllAnimSetLinkupCaches - Took 13.11ms
ScriptLog: Setting image img_Krall01 to visible
ScriptLog: Clearing online delegates for UTEntryPlayerController_0 (Player:LocalPlayer_0)
Log: Virtual  memory allocation size: 191.46 MByte (200765440 Bytes)
Log: Physical memory allocation size:   0.00 MByte (0 Bytes)
Log: Game class is 'Domination'
Log: Primary PhysX scene will be in software.
Log: Creating Primary PhysX Scene.
Log: No Cached Brush Physics Data Found Or Out Of Date (Model_4) (Owner: BlockingVolume_17) - Cooking Now.
PerfWarning: InstanceGeom: 136.079531 ms - 177 Convex, Terrain 0.000000 ms, PerTriSM 0.000000 ms, InitArticulated 0.000000 ms, BodyInst Alloc 0.706308 ms, InitBody 6.028414 ms
PerfWarning: NxActor Creation: 13.376139 ms
Log: Bringing World DOM-Condemned.TheWorld up for play (0) at 2011.12.21-20.49.51
ScriptLog: Mutators UTGame.UTMutator_FriendlyFire
ScriptLog: MinNetPlayers:  0
ScriptLog: Destroying WebServer
ScriptLog: ============================================================================
ScriptLog: [           INITIALIZING a UT3Domination game ...
ScriptLog: [  Version=5.0 Build:10.12.14
 

I'm willing to bet your going to find that the mutator is being loaded, how and where at? I would guess via MapMixer, or maybe there is UTGame.ini at your UT3 install folder at (example):

C:\Program Files (x86)\Unreal Tournament 3\UTGame\Config\ 

 

I am in the process of converting most of my DM maps to DOM and have 2 questions.

1. Do the bots use the defense points? If so, do they need to be a certain AI level?
2. What is the beginning of the round player start logic? Is it totally random?

Thanks...

Thanks for the quick reply Snake.

For the defense points, I have assigned them to the proper point, but bots seem to just stand on the point.

I will take a look at the Kismet example as I want these maps to be done properly. The example map will hopefully help in one of my maps so when the majority of the flags are one color, I can change the color of an interp actor.

So for player starts, it's best to setup standard starts randomly in the map and a set of blue and red (for DDOM). If you only set up team player starts for red and blue, how will that effect if a players tries to play with the 3-4 team option. I am not a fan of having more than 2 teams and most of my maps aren't big enough to really support that.

Also, is there a DOM specific mesh that can be used for the control points?

Thanks for the info. I think I test with too low of a bot skill, but will check higher skill levels.

I will also check the other DOM packages to see what I can use.

Thanks again for your help.

Its ok I'm happy to answer your questions.

1) In a nutshell, your team receives a fraction of a point for each control point your team controlls each tick of the game.

The long answer.

To really understand it you have to see the scoreing code in the UTDomGame class. At the start of the match your team receives 0.2 points per tick per control points controlled. As the match goes on, if the TimeLimit is not 0 then at the last 25% of the match, the points earned are increased to 0.4 points and then at the last 10% you get 0.8 points.

Also even if you capture a control point only to have another team take it away in less then a second, you do still get your points.

[code]

/** * Logic that handles the scoring during game play */
state MatchInProgress
{
   event Timer()
   {
      local int i;
      local float c;

      Super.Timer();
      if ( !bDDOMGame && !bGameEnded )
      {
         c = 0.2;
         if (TimeLimit > 0)
         {
if (GameReplicationInfo.RemainingTime < 0.25 * TimeLimit)
            {
               if (GameReplicationInfo.RemainingTime < 0.1 * TimeLimit)
                  c = 0.8;
               else
                  c = 0.4;
            }
         }

         if ( !bPlayersMustBeReady || (CountDown <= 0) )
         {
            for (i=0; i < CDomPoints.Length; i++)
            {
               ScoreTeam(i, c);
            }

            if (GoalScore > 0)
            {
               for (i=0; i < GameReplicationInfo.Teams.Length; i++)
               {
                  if (GameReplicationInfo.Teams != None && GameReplicationInfo.Teams.Score >= GoalScore)
                     EndGame(None, "teamscorelimit");
               }
            }
         }
      }
   }
}
[/code]

 

2) Bots tend to some times just do what they want to :P Its really hard to say due to the very complex logic they use. If bots are not going for a powerup item, try tweaking the pathnodes around it. Sometimes moving a pathnode to a slightly better location helps.

some debugging console command may help you. During the game open the system console and type in one of these 3 commands 

ShowDebug

or

Viewclass Pawn

or

ShowDebug AI

 

3) If I remember right the 1st control point added to the map, is the bottom most on the hud. Then each control point added after is added above the last one.

Control Point icons are drawn to the hud like so:

4+  <--the 4th

3  <-- the 3rd control point added to the map

2  <-- the 2nd control point added to the map

1  <-- the very 1st control point added to the map is here

 

Snake... do you know if there is a way to keep track of the score in a Domination (or any other game modes)?

While it's not a big deal, on one of my maps, I always change the color of a rotating sign (it's a map based on Q*bert). I would like to keep that theme for the Domination version. I am thinking of displaying the color of the team that's currently in the lead or maybe who has the most flags?

I haven't mapped for most of the year and am extremely rusty... at everything.