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Name: Nano
Game type: DM / TDM
Version: Beta 1
Compatibility: Patch 2.1 + Titan Pack
Story / Histoire:

Once occupied by Axon, this base under rock was used to store mainly toxic containers. It was discovered by coincidence by the Necris. The Necris have setup this base & use it as a 'Nano' storehouse. We can found several types of Nano, the yellow, the yellow/orange, the green & the black.

Autrefois occupée par les Axon, cette base sous roches servait de dépôt de produits toxiques en conteneurs. Elle fut découverte par hasard par les Necris. Les Necris ont aménagé cette base & s'en servent comme dépôt de 'Nano'. On y retrouve plusieurs types de Nano ; la jaune, la jaune/orange, la verte & la noir.

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This is my second map. Beta 1 took more than 700 working hours split on 7 months. There is almost 12 000 items in this map. I hope you will like it wink All armors, medium health & powerups are very easy to collect, therefore are placed in dangerous spots. Take note that this is a dark map & you will only appreciate it while playing with low surrounding light. Playing in daytime is not as pleasing.

Things left to do by priority :

- Optimize the level the best I can so that FPS will be higher. I've done ±40% for B1.
- Finish the sky.
- Make the 3 fans near the shock rotate.
- Some finishing touches here & there (mostly on some ceilings).
- Fix bugs if any.

About the jumppads, I made everything I can to set them right. By taking them from front, there is no problem & you get use to them rather quickly smile

Credits:

Consult the included text file.

Downloads:

PC Beta 1 (from FilePlanet)
PC Beta 1 (from MediaFire)

-- Edited by stevelois on Wednesday 26th of August 2009 11:59:58 PM

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the map play like a charm and is pure visual asskick

but....i was "propulsed" two times on the "tubes" around the minigun;same thing happened to me (i showed u the screenshot in a priv beta testing) and i was stuck on the tubes...not normal for a flying monkey haha^^

excellent job mate; this map is a rock!!

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Damn, I check the blocking volume there but I couldn't find the reason why you got "propulsed". It can happen before a match but it never occur to me while playing ?

I delete the blocking volume around the lights on the wall thinking that was the cause.

Perhaps it's not the blocking volume I thought it was ?

Would you mind to post a pic again... please please please ???!!

I'm happy you like the visuals :D

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lol ...yes but since u suggested to me to add more bots i m no more enough fast to take the shots ^^lol got a bloody one but it not really help to localisate the place
will retry and re find it ; i was propulsed because a rocket have explode on my shock ball haha^^...weird world :p
happened 3 times to me so i bet it ll re happen

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Ah, ok then.

I was wondering if it could be a good idea to switch the shock & the link ???

What do you think ?

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Hey Blitz, look like there is only you & me who care to give feedback on this forum section !????

Feedback is becoming rare these day's, a chance your there old friend !

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yeah ;and a chance for me: you are here too haha^^
they ll come back soon....;)....for sure :p

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Well, at least we are here :D

Even on Epic forums, it's completely "dead" in all threads......... very sad :( I still wonder why I post my map there, only 3 folks as give me feedback, you, Martin & Lord. The thing that is deceiving is that the map as been downloaded 40 times & no more feedback than this, it make me very sad mate :(

Anyway, it's not related but I post a bit on UTU today to encourage them, they do a damn fine job :)

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Hi Steve and Bro,
Very nice map Steve on the picts because I wanted to download it yesterday and links didn't work so i thougt it was my bad connection and i try again today but links ever didn't work "link is corrupted" , it is my connection or links are really corrupted ? Sorry for my poor english ! Your map seems to be very nice and I will enjoy it i'm sure, if i achieve to play it lol and when i will play it i tell you again....ty for your work ! I'm sorry to had not answered before... Cuwink

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Hi "So..."

THX for the compliment ;)

I don't understand why the link is not working ??? You can try the full link on Fileplanet (it's the same but just in case) :

http://www.fileplanet.com/204141/200000/fileinfo/Unreal-Tournament-3---DM-Nano-Beta-1

As for the mediafire link, I have absolutely no idea !!???

So, tell me if it's working please :)

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Hiho Steve,
Thx for your link in message, it works with it, and I'd try Nano. I like the gameplay and lightning is very good and all is very good....I like all places (especialy pilars room) and all passages...congrats for this map and again ty for your nice work !!!!
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Downloading it now :)

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Excellent map m8! Great layout and the lighting is spot on.

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Hi So & Sabbath666 :)

THX for playing it, I'm happy you like it :D

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FYI,

I intent to publish only 1 version (RCI) before the final since most of feedback is very positive.

This is what I've done so far for the next release in a couple of weeks :

RC 1

- Add 4 blocking volume on top of the 4 fans so projectile aren't rendered at the exterior of the map.
- Minors lighting changes here & there.
- Tweak the lift so it stop at the Vest level now before reaching is destination.
- Tweak some sounds settings all around the map.
- Assign proper sound on all my materials.
- Make the 3 fans near the shock rotate. Each on there individual speed & direction. The fastest one as a sound.

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Good Luck in the MSUC M8!

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Ok, good luck too...wink

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THX Lord & So :D

I doubt of winning something, the competition is very fierce, but it would be very cool for sure :)

I'm working on another map now, it's called DM-Aly. I'm still at the very basic layout design. If you want more info, you can always check it at my main thread on Epic forums.

http://forums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?t=620494

I'll make a thread for that map when the BSP will be finished & a download will be available.

Meanwhile, I'll post the info on my main thread only.

As for Nano, if you encounter bugs, anything odd, please let me know.

THX in advance dude & dudette :)

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I am considering making a ruined edition of Nano with Liandri meshes & a bright lighting ?

Don't know if people would be interested ?

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lol what do u mean by ruined? with a white sunlight set on 5 ?.... :p......and what do u mean by bright lighting? so many ways to understand it haha

ohhh btw here the only shot that i have taken of the "stuck" position on nano i hope u can reconise where it s is because i cant ; all was so fast:


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I would recognize the pic if it where bigger lol Now it's so small I can't see where it is !

I'm looking...looking...looking...

Ok, it's near the 2 vials.

I'll check the B-Vol there. THX Éric :D

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After adjusting collisions, deleting meshes, messing with BV, I finally found the cause ! It was the damn BV on the ceiling. It's fixed now :D THX for the pic Blitz ;)

This is what is done now :

- Add 4 blocking volume on top of the 4 fans so projectile aren't rendered at the exterior of the map.
- Adjust some SM collisions.
- Minors lighting changes here & there.
- Fix, player been stuck in the Stinger ceiling near the 2 vials.
- Fix, player been stuck in the opening trying to go from the vest armor to the corridor beside.
- Enhance the lift so it stop at the Vest level now before reaching is destination.
- Enhance some sounds settings all around the map.
- Assign proper sound on all my materials.
- Finish the sky.
- Make the 3 fans near the shock rotate. Each on there individual speed & direction. The fastest one as a sound.
- Adjust height fog so it's a tiny bit less dense but more bright. It's more balanced with the sky now.

-- Edited by stevelois on Wednesday 2nd of September 2009 04:18:54 AM

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héhé ...it seem to be ready to rock the phase 4...good job steve smile.gif

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I thought that the deadline MSUC P4 was August 31th no ???

That is why I publish B1 so players would have a little something of me that is descent to play with & I wanted to participate in the contest !

But anyway, even if I'm wrong, if the deadline is not August 31st, to bad, I leave it like that.

EDIT

LOL after reading this on the MSUC main page, I was right finally :

Make Something Unreal Phase 4 Submission Closed
Phase 4 is submission is now closed. This is the final public round for contestants, and Phase 4 winners have the chance to compete in the grand final judging for a commercial Unreal Engine 3 license with all the bells and whistles.
Phase 4 Submission deadline is August 31st.



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Well, it's damn quiet around here... ?

I publish beta 1 on BU's forums & I didn't have any feedback at all since. Very deceiving :(

Look like all that time working on this map don't worth my time.

Anyway, DM-Aly will be very simple & I won't put that much efforts in my next maps, it doesn't worth it.

I didn't make much progress on Nano since I begun building DM-Aly but I'll finish it for sure. At least, few folks on this planet will play it.

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havent read that u missed the deadline....oooops.....sad to hear that :(

anyway the map rocks but i told ya before haha.....come on peeps lets try betas !

especially that kind of kicka** ones! ;)

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Ho Blitz, don't worry about the deadline, I've sent Nano like a few days before it. I just post the info for you since you thought that maybe I couldn't sent it in time.

BTW, I just notice you sent me a PM 8 days ago. Sorry for the long delay but I didn't see until few minutes ago so that's why I didn't answer ! It's not obvious to notice pm's on this forum dude !

Anyway, going back to mapping now :)

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I'm having strange FPS behavior.

Since week, I'm optimizing the map by culling unnecessary stuff & set the culling on a lot of meshes. Still, I don't really see any FPS gain, which is rather desapointing considering all the time I'm putting on this map.

I also have drastic FPS drops at spots. I mean, I'm standing still & look somewhere & FPS are at 130, then, standing at the same spot without moving, I point the mouse just a tiny bit beside like 1 milimeter & I'm droping to 60 FPS ?????????

The thing is that doesn't make any sence to me because I didn't move at all, I just look a bit aside & all meshe as been cull behind the walls so regardless of where I'm looking since I didn't move FPS should be the same & not drop ???

Any ideas ideas ??????

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the lighting is often guilty in that kind of stuff...and if u dont moove yer body but just yer eyes with big fps dropdown it can come from a light that enlighted differently from different views( i mean depending of what u watch ; the light have to cast shadows or not...complex or not) ...lol...not really clear... haha

do u use dynamic lights? and how many?

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Mmm... you bring an interesting point about lighting. I do understand what your trying to explain. The thing is that I use very simple lighting. I could understand if I was using some skylight + several directional light + several dynamic lights all around the map.

Still, I use standard lights. The only dynamic lights I use are for the lift but it doesn't impact me while looking around since I'm the only player in the level.

I'll post pics later to show which spot I notice that FPS drop. I can't now since I'm at work. Epic forums & 99% of my regular gaming site are blocked by our damn firewall but by chance, this forum is not blocked yet smile

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yeah show me the place and i ll try to play it with fraps on to see if i can note a fps "drop down" too ;)

for the lighting ....perhaps an army of static lights impact the fps too and...u have build an army of static lights haha^^

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LOL

An army of lights, good one ha ha biggrin

Well, the thing is, I have around 1 000 000 triangles that are rendering in some place & I can't see what is taking so much triangles since I cull a lot of meshes ?

I don't remember where exactly I got the FPS drop but I want to compare with you if you have the same amount of rendered meshes.

In the center room, there is more than 2 000 000 triangles that are rendered after I cull a lot of meshes.

Stock maps are around 700 000 triangles & mine is almost 3 times the amount even after I cull a lot of meshes damn it :(

I'll post some pics so you can compare with Beta 1 if you see a good progress on your rig. I located myself on some extremity of the map and FPS is still to low no

I use the commands :

stat fps
stat engine
showhud off
setres 1680x1050

& check if your having the samount of rendered meshes (the balue you must check is the "static mesh tris" in case you don't know).

screenshot00004.jpg

screenshot00000h.jpg


screenshot00001n.jpg

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héhé...thx for thoses infos cousin i ll try asap....u learned me a lot here ; never checked it before...
i ll be off tommorow i have a "hygien control "in cheese room...lot of papers to prepar lol and i hate that stuff



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Well, have a nice day cousin even if you don't like the "paperasse".

The stat engine command is very useful. It's the most accurate tool you can use for testing. Fraps is a good tool but only tell about FPS, the command tell you about what's rendered which is the most precise result you can get :)

Take your time dude, I'm not in the hurry ;)

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Here is the current status :

- Add 4 blocking volume on top of the 4 fans so projectile aren't rendered at the exterior of the map.
- Make the 3 fans near the shock rotate. Each on there individual speed & direction. The fastest one as a sound.
- Fix player been stuck from Shock combo in the Stinger ceiling near the 2 vials.
- Fix player been stuck in the opening trying to go from the vest armor to the corridor beside.
- Fix player been stuck in the stairs when to close to the wall, taking the stairs leading to the bio weapon from the center.
- Enhance the lift movement so it stop at the Vest level now before reaching is destination.
- Enhance the lift look so it look more Necris.
- Enhance the green Nano in the various "tubes". There is a background effect now instead of being a very dark green Nano.
- Enhance various sounds settings all around the map.
- Assign proper sound on all my materials.
- Add a prettier rock material on all rocks. It's now twice more detailed than the stock material.
- Finish the sky.
- Adjust height fog so it's a tiny bit less dense but more bright. It's more balanced with the sky now.
- Some minors visuals changes including lighting changes here & there.
- Some finishing touches here & there.

What is left to do :

- Adjust SM collisions everywhere.
- Optimize the level the best I can so that FPS is as high as I can possibly get.

I have a lot done but it's not finished yet. It's damn long & boring to do :(

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yooo srry steve i forgot to check the tris....will do theses days....i m on fire like always

good list of changes mate cant wait to betatest ;)

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I know I know your busy ;)

Next is final dude, no more beta for that map.

But, even if I cull a lot of meshes, FPS remains the same, very sad :( But I'm continuing optimizing it. I add almost everything peoples ask & I fix all know bugs so in the end, it's good :D

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After I publish beta, I focus on finishing stuff & most importantly optimize the map the more I can.

I spend many days on optimizing the damn map & I've got 5 fps at most. I'm very deceive that I couldn't get more fps than that.

I'm done with this map & I think I'll publish the final tonight or this weekend & concentrate on Aly instead.


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Damm. My old stone age PC will die playing this...LOL

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LOLLL

The Flingstone era is already pass mate :p

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I'm doing the last optimizations tonight,by spending like 4-5 hours on it, after it's final.

Final will be Saturday no matter how FPS are.

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cant wait to play the final :)

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THX Blitz

I hope you will get better FPS because I'm on optimizations since beta 1, can you imagine !

In any case, it's better than beta 1, that's the good news :D

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The final will be available shortly :D

I'm uploading the file ATM :)

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