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Form looking at the newer cards I found some a much better then Nvidia.wink

One big problem Vid Mem not alot I need more then 1024MB something like 1280 or 1536MB like Nvidia cards I think.biggrin

Seeing how I use all of the 1GB on my games with custom textures and content.

AMD Radeon™ HD 6870 GPU Feature Summary:

  • 900MHz Engine Clock
  • 1GB GDDR5 Memory
  • 1050MHz Memory Clock (GDDR5)
  • 134.4 Gbps memory bandwidth (maximum)
  • 2 TFLOPs compute power
  • Double slot form factor
  • TeraScale 2 Unified Processing Architecture
    • 1120 Stream Processors
    • 56 Texture Units
    • 128 Z/Stencil ROP Units
    • 32 Color ROP Units
  • PCI Express® 2.1 x16 bus interface
  • "Eye-Definition" graphics
    • DirectX® 11 support
      • Shader Model 5.0
      • DirectCompute 11
      • Programmable hardware tessellation unit
      • Accelerated multi-threading
      • HDR texture compression
      • Order-independent transparency
    • OpenGL 4.1 support
    • Image quality enhancement technology
      • Up to 24x multi-sample and super-sample anti-aliasing modes
      • Adaptive anti-aliasing
      • Morphological anti-aliasing (MLAA)
      • 16x angle independent anisotropic texture filtering
      • 128-bit floating point HDR rendering
  • AMD Eyefinity multi-display technology1
    • Independent resolutions, refresh rates, color controls, and video overlays
    • Display grouping
      • Combine multiple displays to behave like a single large display
  • AMD EyeSpeed visual acceleration2
    • AMD Accelerated Parallel Processing (APP) technology3,4
      • OpenCL 1.1
      • DirectCompute 11
      • Accelerated video encoding, transcoding, and upscaling
    • UVD 3 dedicated video playback accelerator
      • MPEG-4 AVC/H.264
      • VC-1
      • MPEG-2 (SD & HD)
      • Multi-View Codec (MVC)
      • MPEG-4 part 2 (DivX, Xvid)
      • Adobe Flash
    • Enhanced Video Quality features
      • Advanced post-processing and scaling
      • Dynamic contrast enhancement and color correction
      • Brighter whites processing (Blue Stretch)
      • Independent video gamma control
      • Dynamic video range control
    • Dual-stream HD (1080p) playback support
    • DXVA 1.0 & 2.0 support
  • AMD HD3D technology5
    • Stereoscopic 3D display/glasses support
    • Blu-ray 3D support
    • Stereoscopic 3D gaming
    • 3rd party Stereoscopic 3D middleware software support
  • AMD CrossFireX™ multi-GPU technology6
    • Dual GPU scaling
  • Cutting-edge integrated display support
    • DisplayPort 1.2
      • Max resolution: 2560x1600 per display
      • Multi-Stream Transport
      • 21.6 Gbps bandwidth
      • High bit-rate audio
    • HDMI 1.4a with Stereoscopic 3D Frame Packing Format, Deep Color, xvYCC wide gamut support, and high bit-rate audio
      • Max resolution: 1920x1200
    • Dual-link DVI with HDCP
      • Max resolution: 2560x1600
    • VGA
      • Max resolution: 2048x1536
  • Integrated HD audio controller
    • Output protected high bit rate 7.1 channel surround sound over HDMI or DisplayPort with no additional cables required
    • Supports AC-3, AAC, Dolby TrueHD and DTS Master Audio formats
  • AMD PowerPlay™ power management technology4
    • Dynamic power management with low power idle state
    • Ultra-low power state support for multi-GPU configurations
  • AMD Catalyst™ graphics and HD video configuration software
    • Unified graphics display drivers
      • Certified for Windows 7, Windows Vista, and Windows XP
    • AMD Catalyst Control Center™
      • Software application and user interface for setup, configuration, and accessing special features of AMD Radeon products

AMD Radeon™ HD 6850 GPU Feature Summary:

  • 775MHz Engine Clock
  • 1GB GDDR5 Memory
  • 1000MHz Memory Clock (GDDR5)
  • 128 Gbps memory bandwidth (maximum)
  • 1.5 TFLOPS compute power
  • Double slot form factor
  • TeraScale 2 Unified Processing Architecture
    • 960 Stream Processors
    • 48 Texture Units
    • 128 Z/Stencil ROP Units
    • 32 Color ROP Units
  • PCI Express® 2.1 x16 bus interface
  • "Eye-Definition" graphics
    • DirectX® 11 support
      • Shader Model 5.0
      • DirectCompute 11
      • Programmable hardware tessellation unit
      • Accelerated multi-threading
      • HDR texture compression
      • Order-independent transparency
    • OpenGL 4.1 support
    • Image quality enhancement technology
      • Up to 24x multi-sample and super-sample anti-aliasing modes
      • Adaptive anti-aliasing
      • Morphological anti-aliasing (MLAA)
      • 16x angle independent anisotropic texture filtering
      • 128-bit floating point HDR rendering
  • AMD Eyefinity multi-display technology1
    • Independent resolutions, refresh rates, color controls, and video overlays
    • Display grouping
      • Combine multiple displays to behave like a single large display
  • AMD EyeSpeed visual acceleration2
    • AMD Accelerated Parallel Processing (APP) technology3,4
      • OpenCL 1.1
      • DirectCompute 11
      • Accelerated video encoding, transcoding, and upscaling
    • UVD 3 dedicated video playback accelerator
      • MPEG-4 AVC/H.264
      • VC-1
      • MPEG-2 (SD & HD)
      • Multi-View Codec (MVC)
      • MPEG-4 part 2 (DivX, Xvid)
      • Adobe Flash
    • Enhanced Video Quality features
      • Advanced post-processing and scaling
      • Dynamic contrast enhancement and color correction
      • Brighter whites processing (Blue Stretch)
      • Independent video gamma control
      • Dynamic video range control
    • Dual-stream HD (1080p) playback support
    • DXVA 1.0 & 2.0 support
  • AMD HD3D technology5
    • Stereoscopic 3D display/glasses support
    • Blu-ray 3D support
    • Stereoscopic 3D gaming
    • 3rd party Stereoscopic 3D middleware software support
  • AMD CrossFireX™ multi-GPU technology6
    • Dual GPU scaling
  • Cutting-edge integrated display support
    • DisplayPort 1.2
      • Max resolution: 2560x1600 per display
      • Multi-Stream Transport
      • 21.6 Gbps bandwidth
      • High bit-rate audio
    • HDMI 1.4a with Stereoscopic 3D Frame Packing Format, Deep Color, xvYCC wide gamut support, and high bit-rate audio
      • Max resolution: 1920x1200
    • Dual-link DVI with HDCP
      • Max resolution: 2560x1600
    • VGA
      • Max resolution: 2048x1536
  • Integrated HD audio controller
    • Output protected high bit rate 7.1 channel surround sound over HDMI or DisplayPort with no additional cables required
    • Supports AC-3, AAC, Dolby TrueHD and DTS Master Audio formats
  • AMD PowerPlay™ power management technology4
    • Dynamic power management with low power idle state
    • Ultra-low power state support for multi-GPU configurations
  • AMD Catalyst™ graphics and HD video configuration software
    • Unified graphics display drivers
      • Certified for Windows 7, Windows Vista, and Windows XP
    • AMD Catalyst Control Center™
      • Software application and user interface for setup, configuration, and accessing special features of AMD Radeon products


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Woo ATI HD 6870 FOR ONLY $325 low on stock thats the problem.



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what size is ur screen bane? for a 22" 1gb memory is enough imo

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FYI

All bench that as been made since 1 years about the correct amount of memory needed for the latest games in 1680*1050 & more is around 640 MB to 800 MB. Higher VRAM than 1 GB is completely useless for games.

An advice from a tech, more than 1 GB is good only for CAD CAO/DAO or pro apps like Catia, LightWave & such so don't waste your money on useless hardware m8. 1 GB is more than enough for now smile

Also I would wait for the 69xx series which is supposed to be out in the coming weeks wink


-- Edited by stevelois on Thursday 18th of November 2010 12:58:37 AM

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Steve is correct, 1gig of memory on a card is fine for any modern game.
Also remember in SLI(probably CF as well) setups only the memory on the primary card is used! So even though you have 2 1gig cards only 1gig on the primary card will be used.

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So 1GB is plenty ok then but Why have two card when 1GB going to waste totaly usless IMO.

Still the 6870 would be faster then 460 or 470 big time.

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Problem wth dual card solutions is that there will be lag if the memory on the second card is used as it's pulled across the bridge into the primary card and then out to the display. I could be wrong with that but I suspect that's what only the primary card memory is used.

470 n 6870 are roughly on par with each other. 470 has physx whereas I think the 6870 is slightly cheaper. Let us know what card you get and how it runs!

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Thinking is going to be the hard part of it deciding even harder.

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if u have an crossfire mobo it could be better to go for AMD , if u decide to upgrade later u can esily x2 ur gfx...

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I can buy a 6850 1gb for $265 thats not bad.

If I buy one and don't like maybe I could sell cheaper two u guys.

If anyone is willing 2 buy.

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I'd be very surprised if ya didn't like that card!

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Lol coming form you the cards sounds great I see what 2x would be like.

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You'll be happy with one and estatic with 2!
Give us tha goss once you have given them a good run!

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Will do

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Here a some stats of how my ATI 6850 handles UT3 on fullest setting and at 1680x1050 Res.

All DM map ranmging in size etc.

Testing time was about 3 min on most of the maps.



DM-Crash, FPS Lowest: 100, Avg: 160, Highest:212

DM-Conquestor-SE, FPS Lowest: 66, Avg: 130, Highest: 190

DM-Duality, FPS Lowest: 113, Avg: 170, Highest: 193

DM-Idoma, FPS Lowest: 65, Avg: 92, Highest: 178

DM-Korumi, FPS Lowest: 95, Avg: 172, Highest: 213


Had a go of GTA IV with custom ENB Graphics and Custom cars and it seem to lag just a tiny bit not much or anything to stop game play.

Hightest Settings and 1680x1050 res.

Tryed to Benchmark but the game crashed odd.....

Games to try Mass Effect 1 & 2 Hightest Settings and 1680x1050 res.

Starcraft II Offline mode not work atm but when I get the net from late Dec I'll try. Hightest Settings and 1680x1050 res.

Dawn of war Soulstorm run smooth. Hightest Settings and 1680x1050 res.

Have not tryed Dawn of War II or Choas raising.

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Can you do a 3Dmark bench 4 us?

Now the biggest question is...are ya happy with the card?


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héhé looks like u can toast UT3 ! :p

+1 to see some 3dmark benchs(06,mark vantage or so)
do u have the ut3 bench?

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Did have 3d bench not anymore and where do you find the ut3 bench???

(It's bloody hot here and stormy.)

Going to need to crack open some Crowny or JD tonight.

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Dont know whats going on but ever since I installed that 6850 my computer does not shutdown.

I have to force it to which is not good at all.

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maybe try reinstalling the drivers, or the previous driver and see if this resolves the issue?
Also, did you uninstall the nvidia drivers for your previous card?

It might help to check the system logs and see if there's an entry for whatever is halting the shutdown process by not closing properly.

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Yeah I uninstalled that nvidia drives and physx.

I did have a good shutdown this morning.

If I get more **** from this ati card I'm going to put my old trusty 250 back in.

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http://files.extremeoverclocking.com/file.php?f=209

i m in the pc buisness tooo theses days, discontruction/reconstruction games...quite find the guilty part....still 2 possibilities...no more bsod tough...and finally got ma oc how i wanted :p
i hope u ll find the fix soon too wink.gif

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Bane the Zergling wrote:
DM-Crash, FPS Lowest: 100, Avg: 160, Highest:212

DM-Conquestor-SE, FPS Lowest: 66, Avg: 130, Highest: 190

DM-Duality, FPS Lowest: 113, Avg: 170, Highest: 193

DM-Idoma, FPS Lowest: 65, Avg: 92, Highest: 178

DM-Korumi, FPS Lowest: 95, Avg: 172, Highest: 213


that's some good optimisation no?!
ok, it's some tiny maps without SM but it's not bad at all biggrin

 



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Bane the Zergling wrote:
DM-Crash, FPS Lowest: 100, Avg: 160, Highest:212

DM-Conquestor-SE, FPS Lowest: 66, Avg: 130, Highest: 190

DM-Duality, FPS Lowest: 113, Avg: 170, Highest: 193

DM-Idoma, FPS Lowest: 65, Avg: 92, Highest: 178

DM-Korumi, FPS Lowest: 95, Avg: 172, Highest: 213


that's some good optimisation no?!
ok, it's some tiny maps without SM but it's not bad at all biggrin

 



indeed lol...as 62 fps is the max from stock settings !  :p

can u try on shangrila bane plz? it s a kind of reference map wink.gif

 



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Yeah I can give that map a go.

Like lord posted it could be a driver problem.

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Well I went to the back where u find 4 trees looked back at the buildings

So here it is lowest 74 fps: avg 120 to 150 fps: hell I saw 240!

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74 is very good m8 :)

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I tried that benchmark prog as well..didn't get far as it's somehow killed my UT3 install...
Looks like either a reinstall or I'll copy across from tha kids PC...

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Well another draw back for the 6850 my mass effect 2 don't work anymore.

It says failed to utilises physX I think thats strange.

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Download the physix drivers from nvidia and install them. You won't need a nvidia card, just the drivers themselves.


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@mick:...???!!!how?...srry to hear that bro, it work like a charm here,i tryed it on all my diff rigs since 1.5 year without any problem
did u fix it or u had to reinstall all?

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Just done some searching on Epic and found that someone was having the exact same crashing issues as me.  Epic Thread 

This line in his logs is exactly the same as mine
"CxxThrowException() Address = 0x723c8e69 (filename not found) [in C:\Windows\WinSxS\x86_microsoft.vc80.crt_1fc8b3b9a 1e18e3b_8.0.50727.762_none_10b2f55f9bffb8f8\MSVCR8 0.dll]"

Fortunately they've claimed moving everything out of the unpublished folder works....here's hoping I can keep my maps intact....

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All working again now!
One of the ini files under the config directory must have changed. I was able to reinstate everything, including any mod ini's, and I'm up and running!

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Thanks lord for that.

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Lord_PorkSword wrote:

All working again now!
One of the ini files under the config directory must have changed. I was able to reinstate everything, including any mod ini's, and I'm up and running!



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and is the bench working ?

 



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Woah I think the PhysX is conflicting with ATI drivers I had a big crash with GTA IV everything went black music stoped had to do a forced shutdown annd restart.

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After problems with this ****en Ati card I've removed it.

My Nvidia 250 back in might get the 460 now big time.

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hey mate, it s always recommended to do a fresh Windows install when u moove from ati to nvidia (or from nvidia to ati :p) to prevent thoses kind of things...
dont feel alone bro ; it s my 8th OS install in 3 days here to manage thoses drivers affairs & uncompatibilities (ATI, Nvidia & LucidHydra....) if the first installs was bugged like hell i must admit the the 8 th is quite perfect now ...just need to figure how work this hydra thing but it finally installed wink.gif
each install helps u to understand what is wrong or not :p

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